I don’t know how long you have used Strava for but for how long I used it a lot of those features you now pay for used to be standard features that came with the app. You didn’t need to pay to get access to all those things and when you have been using features for literally a decade and then suddenly they are held to ransom it kind of pisses you off and makes you not want to use that shit any longer.

I’ll be honest I haven’t looked super into alternatives as of yet as I have only recently got around to dropping Garmin which was fine for me for a long time so maybe there is something out there already that fits my needs anyway :)

Sweet, thank for the recommendation. I will check that out when I get a chance. I think I dropped Strava before you as I don’t remember that, I was just pissed off with the constant erosion of key features put behind paywalls since I had been using them since 2010 or something like that so it just became too much that things I had used for years were now gone!

Who, Garmin? The fact that they added a paid subscription model “Garmin Connect +” for “premium features” that is the first step in the enshittification play book and how Strava started before they slowly erodes features away and put them behind a pay wall of a “subscription service”. I spent a lot of money on watches over my 15 plus years of using Garmin products and do not appreciate them adding paid subscription bullshit.

Add on to that the fact they are an American company with no offline options I’d rather not be sending a lot of sensitive health and location settings to American servers constantly every single day. So those two factors should be reason enough for everyone to start rejecting them IMO.

This is cool but I dropped Strava a while ago due to their constant enshittification. As another poster said I would be super interested in something similar that allows importing data from different sources as I have just also dropped garmin for the same reasons and moved to gadgetbridge but will probably miss some of the more granular comparison abilities garmin offered.

Good luck either way with this!

Typical condescending reply that I expect, yes it is a “skill issue” and I don’t really give a fuck. We don’t all have the same skills or the same levels of interest in acquiring those skills, some of us just want a solution that works easily for their skill level.

It is your kind of attitude as well that puts more people off learning these things because without a real interest in learning these things those kinds of hostilities just put people off of wanting to participate in those circles.

Because I don’t have to learn about things like proxies to try and open the service up outside my network in a secure manner or try to explain to family they need to run tailscale at the same time and then inevitably have to provide tech support for another aspect of “why is this not working?”

I just check allow remote access and it just works and I can go about my day doing things I enjoy more because fucking about with Linux and providing tech support are pretty low on that list for me :)